[COHO] Beer - inconsistant carbonation and a Fair suggestion
cheryl mayfield
cmayfield at uci.net
Thu Jul 26 10:21:53 PDT 2007
Thanks for your help!
I've been using a turkey cooker on a propane burner for brewing up my
batches. I have only been boiling a 4-1/2 gal batch because my cooker isn't
that large and adding chilled boiled water to make 5 gallons in my primary
(plastic) fermenter. Would this make it a more concentrated batch? This was
the first lighter colored beer I tried to make, everything else has been
ambers or browns so I really didn't notice any color problem before. This
batch did seem to get a REALLY rolling boil going - maybe too much?!? Oh
well, guess I'll just have to try again - oh darn (Hah).
Cheryl Mayfield
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Gibson" <ryan_gibson77 at webformixair.com>
To: "'Central Oregon Homebrewers'" <coho at lists.bendtel.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [COHO] Beer - inconsistant carbonation and a Fair suggestion
Yeah, pull all that beer out of your fridge and move it to a cool dark
closet inside your house. You don't want it to get up to 90° in your garage
either. About 60-70 degrees is ideal for bottle conditioning. If it's still
cloudy, just forget about it for a month or so. If it's already started to
clear, the yeast has settled out and may not go active unless you *gently*
shake it loose from the bottom of the bottle.
Most of my bottle conditioned beers are not drinkable until they have been
in the bottle for about a month. Don't be too hasty to judge a green beer.
Once it's carbonated and the yeast has settled out, you can make up your
mind on the flavor.
As far as the color goes, my best guess is that you used an electric burner
in your kitchen and it carmelized/scorched the sugars. Did you have brown
stuff stuck to the bottom of your kettle after the boil? I had this problem
with lighter colored beers until I moved out into my garage with a propane
burner. About the only thing you can do is boil "softer" so the bottom of
the kettle doesn't get as hot durring heating cycles. The drawback to this
is that it will be nearly impossible to get rid of chill-haze.
-R
-----Original Message-----
From: coho-bounces at lists.bendtel.net [mailto:coho-bounces at lists.bendtel.net]
On Behalf Of Thom Gilles
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:52 AM
To: coho at lists.bendtel.net
Subject: Re: [COHO] Beer - inconsistant carbonation and a Fair suggestion
This is a great question and a common problem. When beer is bottled it needs
to remain at room temp. for at least 2 weeks before put in the fridge. This
will give the yeast time to consume the newly added corn sugar and carbonate
the beer. wouldn't toss a batch until I give it plenty of time to correct
itself. You never know, and it hurts to dump your hard work down the
drain!!!
As for the color of the beer, what was the recipe? A blonde ale is a tricky
one if using an extract recipe.
Tom
>From: Huntkng at aol.com
>Reply-To: Central Oregon Homebrewers <coho at lists.bendtel.net>
>To: coho at lists.bendtel.net
>Subject: [COHO] Beer - inconsistant carbonation and a Fair suggestion
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:10:19 EDT
>
>Hi Group!
>This is a great question from one of my COCC students (Cheryl). I
>like these questions because they get us all involved. I had a similar
>problem with a recent IPA. What is your take on the problem here??
>
>Hiya,
> I took your class this past March, LOVED it, still making beer
>(on my 5th batch - raspberry brown ale and some not raspberry for my
>hubby who doesn't do fruity-beer). In fact that's why I'm emailing. I
>got a recipe off Tastybrew for a "not-a-lager" ale which was supposed
>to be a light summer blonde ale. I followed directions, everything
>brewed up fine, put in first fermenter and it proceeded to blow the top
>off the airlock for about 4 days! I left it in there for 7 days then
>transferred it to a glass carboy for another 10 days (still bubbling
>away up until the end). OG and FG were within specs off the recipe
>site. Added the corn sugar; bottled it and I put it in my beer
>refrigerator. And that's where I'm wondering if I went wrong. After
>another 2 weeks couldn't wait and the first 4 bottles I opened had NO
>carbonation, really flat and the color was darker than what it was
>supposed to be. Tossed them down the drain - bottle #5 popped nicely,
>nice head and it will knock your socks off! It's about as far from a
>light beer as you can get. So I've just kinda left it in the
>refrigerator for another week. Should I just toss the whole batch?
>Did putting it in the refrigerator after bottling slow everything down
>too much?
> Thanks for your help and advise
> Cheryl Mayfield P.S. I've been reading about
>the homebrew club's debate about the Deschutes County Fair. I was a
>superintendant in the livestock area (llamas) for about
>7 years. If you want to get any response from the Fair Board, go
>directly to whomever is the superintendant for the division that the
>beer is being under.
>They are the ones to get things done. If you just go to the fair
>office, it will take sooooo long to filter down to the super, the fair
>will be over.
>I
>would suggest that someone contacts the super and has a talk with
>them; show the forms you use for beer judging; and ask who the judge
>is - you may have the same judge for beer as for jelly & pickles. The
>super is the person who contracts for the judges. Since beer judging
>does have a set formula, make sure that person would feel confident
>doing it, or you may be able to step in and let someone else do that
>category - but check with the super first. Some of those people have
>been in those positions for years, and will need to be finessed!! Have
>fun!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From: "cheryl mayfield" <cmayfield at uci.net>
>To: <Huntkng at aol.com>
>Subject: beer
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:30:17 -0700
>Hiya,
> I took your class this past March, LOVED it, still making beer (on my
>5th batch - raspberry brown ale and some not raspberry for my hubby who
>doesn't do fruity-beer). In fact that's why I'm emailing. I got a recipe
>off Tastybrew for a "not-a-lager" ale which was supposed to be a light
>summer blonde ale. I followed directions, everything brewed up fine, put in
>first fermenter and it proceeded to blow the top off the airlock for about
>4 days! I left it in there for 7 days then transferred it to a glass carboy
>for another 10 days (still bubbling away up until the end). OG and FG were
>within specs off the recipe site. Added the corn sugar; bottled it and I
>put it in my beer refrigerator. And that's where I'm wondering if I went
>wrong. After another 2 weeks couldn't wait and the first 4 bottles I opened
>had NO carbonation, really flat and the color was darker than what it was
>supposed to be. Tossed them down the drain - bottle #5 popped nicely, nice
>head and it will knock your socks off! It's about as far from a light beer
>as you can get. So I've just kinda left it in the refrigerator for another
>week. Should I just toss the whole batch? Did putting it in the
>refrigerator after bottling slow everything down too much?
> Thanks for your help and advise
> Cheryl Mayfield
>P.S. I've been reading about the homebrew club's debate about the Deschutes
>County Fair. I was a superintendant in the livestock area (llamas) for
>about 7 years. If you want to get any response from the Fair Board, go
>directly to whomever is the superintendant for the division that the beer
>is being under. They are the ones to get things done. If you just go to the
>fair office, it will take sooooo long to filter down to the super, the fair
>will be over. I would suggest that someone contacts the super and has a
>talk with them; show the forms you use for beer judging; and ask who the
>judge is - you may have the same judge for beer as for jelly & pickles. The
>super is the person who contracts for the judges. Since beer judging does
>have a set formula, make sure that person would feel confident doing it, or
>you may be able to step in and let someone else do that category - but
>check with the super first. Some of those people have been in those
>positions for years, and will need to be finessed!! Have fun!
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